An interview with Team R Dogs: the new owners of todays resurrected Newzbin.com

// 2nd Jun '10 An interview with Team R Dogs: the new owners of todays resurrected Newzbin.com

We posted earlier about the return of Newzbin.com and shortly after Team R Dogs got in touch wanting to clear some things up which we perhaps a tad sceptical over. The interview went as follows:

The Team R Dogs Interview

Our questions...answered.

How do you have access to data which looks like it came from the moment the site went down on May 18th? People in-the-know that we spoke to claimed that the theft occurred a while back, some saying as far as January this year. These are clearly lies given the data you have access to; do you have an explanation?

The early break in is true. Your assumption is that Newzbin1 were aware we were there & closed the backdoors...

Correct, that was a poor assumption on our part, they could have quite easily setup MySQL replication and left it at that (or similar depending on their DB stack).

The domain is obviously the same. We know the current owner off-shored it to the Seychelles and was renting it on a lease back basis to someone. What we did not know was that it would turn out to be the people that stole the code; how is this possible? There must be some connection here the public don't know about.

The name of the new domain name owner is a matter of public record. We contacted them and negotiated. As we understand it we competed against some other nzb domains, though I don't know which ones.

Do you have an ETA on when site payments will be back?

No.

Why did you choose Sweden to host the site in given the recent Pirate Bay happenings?

We like Sweden. But nothing is forever.

How safe are the site logs: you mention that the site is not fully running and operational, how can you be sure the logs are set in the same way as they were before?

Mainly because we didn't fuck with that apache configs at all and hardly at all with the MySQL.

How many people is "we", exactly how big is Team R Dogs? We've only seen Mr White..where's Mr Orange? ;)

'We' is not quite big enough just yet. Mr White is a bit mouthy and likes the sound of his own voice, everyone else is just very shy.

Why did you decide to reinstate everyone's credits when this will surely be at great cost to you as I know many liked to build up their credits in the Xmas sales. That money is surely down the drain to the liquidators now, so why do it?

We've done it as a good will gesture. We have had bad comments from some because, shock, we want to make a profit, but we are ex-Newzbin users ourselves too and want to do the right thing by fellow users. Ex-Users must be hacked off with having lost money in the closure & we don't feel comfortable asking them to pay twice for the same service - even though we have no legal or moral liability for Newzbin1's debts. Added to which the site is going to be broken for a bit anyway.

We aren't sandal wearing hippies, and rest assured we will charge in a bit, but we'll take the income hit because it feels right.

We have been very cynical over the recent Newzbin debacle but the answers to these questions and our ongoing contact with the Team R Dogs crew have decreased our initial scepticism somewhat. We very much look forward to what they'll bring us in the future and wish them the best of luck in getting the site fully back on its feet.

djm posted by djm
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8 Comments

  1. Psyonide
    Posted Jun 2nd, 2010 at 22:06 p.m.

    An informative interview. While I'm happy to see Newzbin back on its feet, I am cautious by nature. At the very least I'll watch the site for a little while and see how things progress. Still, I must say I'm happy to see a good site reborn.

    I have to say I've been baffled by the comments I've read over time about people bashing Newzbin 1 for charging a credit fee and, likewise, bashing Newzbin 2 for (gasp!) seeking to make money. I am not of the opinion that every online business should be run like a charity. Equipment costs money, hired help costs money, maintenance and upgrades cost money, etc. While they're at it they may as well bash their premium Usenet providers, their ISPs, and so on. After all, doesn't information want to be free? A fine bit of sophistry, that line.

    So long as Newzbin provides a useful service I have no problem parting with what amounts to pocket change for its continued use. If there were a comparable free service I would use that instead, but until such a thing exists I don't mind paying for quality.

    Personally I can't wait until Team R Dogs finally masters the code to the point where they can start making improvements. I'd love to see what they can come up with.

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  2. x-member
    Posted Jun 3rd, 2010 at 00:06 a.m.

    THIS JUST MADE MY DAY .... But what's gonna happen to the paying system? This is my only and biggest concern. I hope they use PayPal and never offer direct credit card payments as that already seems a bit unsafe.

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  3. snap
    Posted Jun 3rd, 2010 at 03:06 a.m.

    The interview layout seems rather awkward with those "massive" quotes. It seems like the quotes are the questions and the bold text are the answers.

    You may want to kill the quotes and have a simple Q: A: style layout.

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  4. Posted Jun 3rd, 2010 at 14:06 p.m.

    Yup, this is temporary. Expect some better styling soon.

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  5. Asgood A Sitgets
    Posted Jun 4th, 2010 at 19:06 p.m.

    Thanks, Team. My 1000+ bookmarks are still there and functionality is good. And thanks for keeping my credits intact. Please secure my personal info. Good to have a great site back!

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  6. Posted Jun 24th, 2010 at 06:06 a.m.

    Smells like bacon.

    Spot the fed?

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  7. Michael David
    Posted Aug 2nd, 2010 at 16:08 p.m.

    First of all, @ Hammers...

    no, we don't "spot the Fed". Why the hell would the Fed re-set up Newzbin? Haha. Seriously? For one thing, they don't give a crap about us users. Secondly, it's called "entrapment". Lastly, that's just dumb. Some people smell a rat everywhere, even in a perfume bottle.

    @ Psyonide:

    I sense a kindred spirit. I agree with your post and love what you said about the sophistry of knowledge being "free". Folks have to pay for equipment, hosting, etc. They are completely justified in making a (gasp) profit.

    Some might find that hypocritical because Newzbin allows the "theft" of movies and software and those people deserve to make a profit too. Well, call me a hypocrite. I'll admit, I'm a hypocrite when it comes to the crapweasels in the MPA, MPAA and the RIAA. Those whores make more money than anyone, and begrudge a few starving college students a little entertainment, when they know that later they'll rape their asses off through Blu-ray sales, theater tickets, music downloads and what have you.

    I think it's damn hilarious that the MPA spent alllllllll that money to take down Newzbin, and it pops up a few days later, poking a big middle finger right in their face! I love it. There will always be a country willing to stick it to the man - a "Team" willing to fight the powers that be. Look at the ship registry of Liberia, for crying out loud (not that I condone that type of thing).

    Anyway, long live Newzbin, and hey... Usenetshack... how about laying off the new Newzbin and trying to make a case for the MPA to prove collusion with the new owners, what say? ;-)

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  8. Posted May 9th, 2011 at 20:05 p.m.

    Patience is bitter, but its fruit is sweet.

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